PMP285: Retention for a Change with Principal EL, Dr. TJ Vari and Dr. Joseph Jones

How do you transform school culture so that you keep high quality teachers? Today’s guest include three education leaders: Dr. Salome Thomas-EL, Dr. TJ Vari and Dr. Joseph Jones. These men are school and district leaders in Delaware, and have keynoted and provided professional development at many state and national conferences. 

Their team has been honored with providing ​state-wide training for ​new assistant principals and principals ​through the Deleware Dept. of Education. They have authored or co-authored 6 books on leadership, feedback for teachers and leaders, influence, school culture, equity, recruiting and retaining teachers, and so much more.  Their newest book is Retention for a Change: Motivate, Inspire, and Energize Your School Culture.

Dr. Salome Thomas-EL, also known as Principal EL, is a former long-time lead in Philadelphia public schools and is currently principal of a two-time National Chess Champion K-8 Charter School. 

Dr. Joseph Jones is a former H.S. Principal and currently the Superintendent of a nationally recognized CTE school district in Deleware.

Dr. T.J. Vari is a former Middle School award-winning principal and currently Assistant Superintendent of the fastet growing school district in Deleware.

In this episode, the authors discuss:

  • What compelled them to write this new book, Retention for a Change.
  • Key ideas education leaders should keep in mind for finding and retaining high quality teachers.
  • Tips and ideas for developing and supporting teachers and staff for the long-term.
  • Suggestions for principals or leaders who also need ideas for encouraging tired teachers or staff in the day-to-day work of school.

You can connect with the new book and more resources from these great leaders at

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William D. Parker
William D. Parker